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Let me start by saying I don't trust any of the 3 major players seeking the office of President.Despite that I still like following politics because every 4 years when we go through this Presidential election cycle, we really get to see spin masters working their charm.
A great example is this whole "debate", as it were, on so-called Foreign Policy experience. Explain this to me.. why does this matter? Bear in mind the following little tidbit: Our last two Presidents, including the current sitting one, both became President after being Governors. What Foreign Policy experience do freakin Governors have? Zero. His lack of foreign policy experience did little to assuage people from voting for Bush in 2000 - even if he didn't win the popular vote. And yet in 2000, such experience was still pretty relevent: Terrorism was on the rise and becoming more brazen (Remember the USS Cole?), and the fragile tendril of "peace" between Israel and Palestine was starting to show its weaknesses.
So when I see people attacking Obama for his lack of foreign policy experience, it makes me want to laugh. Sure, McCain has more of said experience than him, but it was McCain's party head (read: The POTUS) who got us in this foreign policy mess to begin with. And what was with that hardline McCain took about other nations like Iran and North Korea that sounded an awful lot like Bush's "Axis of Evil"/"You are either with us or you are with the terrorist" comments. Have the Republicans learned nothing these last 4 years?
Newsflash to the GOP: Most reasonable people like the idea of pursuing every avenue of diplomacy before resorting to bombing someone to the stone age. 'Every avenue of diplomacy' is not the same as "appeasement".
Now, before anyone thinks I'm all anti-Republican, this on-going fight between Clinton and Obama is pissing me off. And what is Clinton's primary argument? She has "experience".
Folks, "experience", when said in a political context, is the same thing as saying:
"I can maintain the status quo. I know how to exploit government loopholes, accept underhanded PAC funds, and play hardball while looking out for number one. I'm a Washington Beltway insider."
I would rather have someone with 2 years of Washington DC "experience" than someone with 30. Public Service, in my opinion, was never designed to be a freakin' career choice. People shouldn't aspire to grow up and want to be a Senator for 30-40 years. People with lots of Washington DC "experience" are career Politicans, no more, no less, and like everyone else with a career, they want nothing more than job security. [This, of course, is why I'm a very staunch advocate of term limits. No more than 6 terms as a Congressman or 2 terms as a Senator - that's a total of 12 years. And if you go to the Senate from the House of Representatives, you can only serve the number of years which equal to a maximum of 12 (for example, a 2 term Congressman who takes a Senate seat would only serve one full term as a Senator plus 2 years).]
Like I said, I don't trust any of them. And if I even bother to vote (thank you, George Carlin, for your enlightenment on why voting is useless), I'd vote for Obama over McCain and even Hillary over McCain. 8 years of a Republican president is enough. I don't think anything would change with a Democrat, but lets give them a chance. They can't screw us worse than, oh, I dunno, a needless war that has been a multibillion dollar drain on our economy. Even with higher taxes and bigger spending on federalized programs, we'd probably still see a multibillion dollar drain on our economy - but maybe we'd have something more to show for it than dead soldiers and more people who want to kill us.
Posted by Captiosus on Sat May 17, 2008 @ 3:51 am EDT | 3 Comments
Mike James 2012! 
Posted by MikeJames on Sat May 17, 2008 @ 4:37 am EDT
Although I agree with 90% of your blog I have to point out something that bugged me a bit. You said
"I don't think anything would change with a Democrat, but lets give them a chance. They can't screw us worse than, oh, I dunno, a needless war that has been a multibillion dollar drain on our economy." ...
and "maybe we'd have something more to show for it than dead soldiers and more people who want to kill us."
I do find it funny how people seem to forget the body bags being brought home under the clinton admin. Lets see
* The 1993 World Trade Center bombing that killed 6 and injured 1,000
* The 1993 Mogadishu firefight that killed 18 U.S. soldiers
* The 1995 Oklahoma City terrorist attack on the federal building by American extremists that killed 168, wounding several hundred others
* The 1995 Saudi Arabia car bomb that killed 5 U.S. military personnel
* The 1996 Khobal Towers bombing that killed 19 U.S. soldiers, wounding 515
* The 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa that killed 231 citizens, 12 Americans and injured 5,000
* The 2000 USS Cole attack in Yemen that killed 17 U.S. sailors, wounding 39
I know the numbers of dead are not the same as in this war but keep in mind that fighting a war in very much different than sitting around on our asses and allowing extremists to kill our citizens with impunity. Could this war have been handled better? Absolutely, but at least the Republicans are doinf something about it.
Other than that, Good blog +1 and by the way, I would absolutely vote for term limits.
"I don't think anything would change with a Democrat, but lets give them a chance. They can't screw us worse than, oh, I dunno, a needless war that has been a multibillion dollar drain on our economy." ...
and "maybe we'd have something more to show for it than dead soldiers and more people who want to kill us."
I do find it funny how people seem to forget the body bags being brought home under the clinton admin. Lets see
* The 1993 World Trade Center bombing that killed 6 and injured 1,000
* The 1993 Mogadishu firefight that killed 18 U.S. soldiers
* The 1995 Oklahoma City terrorist attack on the federal building by American extremists that killed 168, wounding several hundred others
* The 1995 Saudi Arabia car bomb that killed 5 U.S. military personnel
* The 1996 Khobal Towers bombing that killed 19 U.S. soldiers, wounding 515
* The 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa that killed 231 citizens, 12 Americans and injured 5,000
* The 2000 USS Cole attack in Yemen that killed 17 U.S. sailors, wounding 39
I know the numbers of dead are not the same as in this war but keep in mind that fighting a war in very much different than sitting around on our asses and allowing extremists to kill our citizens with impunity. Could this war have been handled better? Absolutely, but at least the Republicans are doinf something about it.
Other than that, Good blog +1 and by the way, I would absolutely vote for term limits.
Posted by M13a77 on Sat May 17, 2008 @ 10:54 am EDT
@MikeJames
I'd totally vote for ya Mike. But I want to see pictures of the impending "White House Game Room" after you're elected.
@M13a77:
Oh, I don't defend the Clinton administration anymore than I defend the Bush one. It was, after all, Clinton who sat on his ass as a Lame Duck president after the Cole got bombed and basically shrugged it off as "the next guys problem".
I agree with you 100%, the Clinton admin did nothing to dissuade terrorism except hurl a couple of bombs - and the only reason he got away with it was because we managed to be in an era of prosperity and terrorism seemed "so far away" , even after Oklahoma City and the first WTC bombing.
That is, of course, one of my biggest complaints with the Clinton folk. His only real legacy was being president during a nice economic boom.
That said, though, the Republicans currently are doing something, sure, about a war they managed to hoist onto the American public wrapped in the remnants of 9/11 and lathered with rhetoric about security. But I side with the school of thought that our presence in Iraq has done far more harm than good to our security as a whole; It may not happen next week or next year - look how long it took Bin Laden to pull off his coup de grāce, and his publicly stated beef was that we were in Saudi Arabia in 1990. I'm sure there's more to it than that, but still we're not exactly seen as bastions of Good Will over there, and that hurts us in the region in a bad way.
No, the Clintons weren't much better. But at least they didn't promote going to war for one reason, get busted for giving us a bogus reason, then gave a second reason which also turned out to be bunk, finally defaulting to a position of "oh well, we're there now".
I'd totally vote for ya Mike. But I want to see pictures of the impending "White House Game Room" after you're elected.
@M13a77:
Oh, I don't defend the Clinton administration anymore than I defend the Bush one. It was, after all, Clinton who sat on his ass as a Lame Duck president after the Cole got bombed and basically shrugged it off as "the next guys problem".
I agree with you 100%, the Clinton admin did nothing to dissuade terrorism except hurl a couple of bombs - and the only reason he got away with it was because we managed to be in an era of prosperity and terrorism seemed "so far away" , even after Oklahoma City and the first WTC bombing.
That is, of course, one of my biggest complaints with the Clinton folk. His only real legacy was being president during a nice economic boom.
That said, though, the Republicans currently are doing something, sure, about a war they managed to hoist onto the American public wrapped in the remnants of 9/11 and lathered with rhetoric about security. But I side with the school of thought that our presence in Iraq has done far more harm than good to our security as a whole; It may not happen next week or next year - look how long it took Bin Laden to pull off his coup de grāce, and his publicly stated beef was that we were in Saudi Arabia in 1990. I'm sure there's more to it than that, but still we're not exactly seen as bastions of Good Will over there, and that hurts us in the region in a bad way.
No, the Clintons weren't much better. But at least they didn't promote going to war for one reason, get busted for giving us a bogus reason, then gave a second reason which also turned out to be bunk, finally defaulting to a position of "oh well, we're there now".
Posted by Captiosus on Sun May 18, 2008 @ 3:59 am EDT
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